16/03/2015 23:55 clock
The DFB headquarters in Frankfurt am Main, the decision has been made: Hamburg to apply for Germany at the Olympic Games in 2024 or 2028. While the decision of the German Olympic Sports Confederation Bureau is at first only a “recommendation” for the German Olympic Sports Confederation General Assembly on Saturday, but it is expected that the General Assembly within the meaning of the Bureau of the votes. We accompanied the day in our Live Scores
23.55 clock. The hours of the decision in the Summary
Berlin pictures. But Hamburg has an idea. In this formula can most likely make the difference between winning application of the Elbe and the unsuccessful campaign of the Spree
In addition to the anxious look at the mood of the people of Berlin may have tipped the Hamburg especially the urban concept. The Head of our sports desk, Friedhard Teuffel has now also pursuing the two crucial days in Frankfurt at close range after months of discussion. Read his report by the struggle to Olympia. Dear readers, thus ends our live coverage of the meeting of the German Olympic Sports Confederation bureau. On Tuesday we will keep you again about the new developments to date. Then there are sufficient opportunities to account for the Olympic bid
23.04 clock. So celebrated Berlin Olympic Teams
Great joy, little party: 15 activists of the NOlympia movement had gathered in Kreuzberg in the afternoon. They celebrated after the first, long unconfirmed report of RBB over the decision to Hamburg, but soon went apart. Now they want to support the meaning comrades in the Hanseatic city. Read here how the Olympic opponents have received the news
21.54 clock. The rings do not remain lit at the Olympic Stadium
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Still, the lights in Berlin. The Olympic rings at the Olympic Stadium will still be illuminated until the weekend – perhaps the most appropriate venue for disappointing Olympic fans to process the defeat in the next few days
21.10 clock. Klaus Boeger “deeply disappointed” by Sports associations
The President of the Sports Federation Berlin, Klaus Boeger is “very surprised and perplexed” about the clear victory in Hamburg on the vote of the Olympic federations. Boeger would on the contrary “a clear majority in Berlin expected,” he told the Tagesspiegel – especially since the city has always been an “excellent platform” for the international sport in many different disciplines. “This has deeply disappointed me,” he assessed the vote of 18:11 for Hamburg. A central argument was apparently the Hamburg urban society. “Berlin is just a diverse, challenging, and rugged city when it comes to a clearly articulated civil society that says what she wants -. And not what they do not want – then Hamburg lies ahead.” Accordingly, the Hanseatic city of greater security for the remaining outstanding citizens vote offer. Read our full interview with Klaus Boeger
20.28 clock. Why Hamburg won
DOSB president Alfons Hörmann cites three reasons that have spoken for Hamburg and Berlin in order to: “The Hamburg noticeably greater enthusiasm for the project, the vote of the significant associations for Hamburg and exchange with the experts.” This amazing especially the 33 associations, some of which have spoken out 18 for Hamburg. The Berlin had believed that professional associations stood behind the majority of the capital, because she has more experience with top sport events. But since Berlin has apparently deceived enormous.
20.25 clock: Ole von Beust encourages a debate “Berlin 2030″ in
consolation comes from Hamburg by former Mayor Ole von Beust – and at the same time cheering for the capital, which he called his “second home” means. Berlin now need “a discourse on ‘Berlin 2030′ ‘, as suggested by Beust against the Tagesspiegel. “Maybe initiated from above, but not as a command, but widely discussed in an attempt to develop goals that motivate policy and administration and bind that integrate population and connect the dedicated people of the city”. Basically it closes so that the opposition to Berlin, which had already criticized the lack of citizen participation in the Olympic campaign. Ole von Beust recommends, without malice, as he points out: “The decision of the German Olympic Sports Confederation has something good: Berlin is almost forced to think about yourself, where it is, where it wants to go.” It is not enough to see themselves as the German capital, but the city also need a local civic debate on its future development
20.10 clock. Berlin’s opposition criticizes concept and campaign for Senate
Of course, the Berliner opposition congratulates the winning hamburgers. But sometimes including also interferes relief – as well as criticism of the Olympic concept and the campaign of the Berlin Senate. Martin Delius, Chairman of the Pirates Group , says, “The cup of the Olympic bid has passed Berlin”. Those responsible to the Governing Mayor Michael Müller and Interior Senator Frank Henkel had “fallen on the nose,” said Delius. He finds the campaign symptomatic of the approach to large-scale projects in the capital. “The Senate has still not arrived in the planning of major events in the 21st century.” He continued: “The subject participation wanted to treat with the unconstitutional Lex Olympia, financing models and content concepts were sought in Berlin in vain.”
Similarly, expressed the National Association of Green : ” The Berlin Senate has wasted the chance to convince the city and the German Olympic Sports Confederation of the possibility of sustainable, decentralized and ecological games in the German capital. ” The Senate did not have enough be transparent and “put on a uninspired campaign instead of true citizen participation”. At the same time the Greens remember the promise for the rehabilitation of sports facilities and comply with the support of the Berlin grassroots level. “It’s possible without the Olympics.” The FDP is assigned to Berlin’s bid in a “long series of failures” in Berlin politics a “particularly serious from the perspective of the FDP as the party of citizen participation that the Berliners not taken from the beginning were. “
19.48 clock: Reactions from Hamburg: Michael Stich and Senator Michael Neumann
Conjuring words from the victorious Hanseatic city. “I had believed in Hamburg as a winner,” says former tennis star Michael Stich. “Now we have about the decision as well. They look forward means a huge opportunity for the whole city.” And sports Senator Michael Neumann, competitor Frank Henkel at the presentation in Frankfurt am Main, are equally grateful as confidently: “This is a great honor for our city, I thank the hamburgers, which in recent months with us hooked. . were for the Olympic idea who has not yet loved the hamburger hamburger must now love “
19.42 clock. The Berliner Sport is disappointed
The Berlin sports shows disappointed by the decision in Frankfurt. “I’m disappointed,” says the former hockey national player Natascha Keller, “but I am athlete and may also lose.” Perhaps the lost referendum of Munich in 2022 have been decisive for the decision, she believes. Kaweh Niroomand, spokesman of the Berlin professional clubs, says: “I appeal to the Berliners, not always antagonizing major projects skepticism Us missed a great opportunity to provide an infrastructure project in Berlin on the legs..”
19.37 clock: Henkel: Survey residue too large
Interior and Sport Senator Frank Henkel explained in the RBB, you have to Hamburg in the population survey can not make up with “sport technical arguments” the residue. “I think we have done a good job.” However, Berlin was also back in the sports associations. “It was a sporting competition,” said Henkel. In a press release Henkel had the rivals Hamburg congratulates: “I congratulate our competitors Hamburg I wish the city that it is able to bring the games to Germany..” Henkel was the application process even after the defeat abgewinnen still good: “I have found it very positive that has been discussed throughout the city so alive on a theme.” This dispute had “brought us as a city,” the “work was not in vain”
19.30 clock: Michael Müller congratulates Hamburg – Olympia is “in democratic states” to take place
“The. Sport has decided. Hamburg is a candidate for the German Olympic bid will, “tells Berlin’s mayor Michael Müller. “Berlin has made an offer for the German Olympic Sports Confederation modern and sustainable reform Games And again.” Even though the final decision will be made until the end of this week, today I would like to thank you for the great Hamburg, fair and sporting domestic competition. It’s important: The Olympic ideal, the youth of the world to invite to fair competition away from the origin, religion and culture, is a profoundly democratic idea. That’s why this festival of sport should take place in the future in democratic states and in the best case in Germany. “Müller thanks all supporters in recent months, particularly with the delegation led by Interior Senator Frank Henkel, who has been campaigning in the last two days for the capital. Regardless of the Berlin Olympic decision to continue loading athletes to international races, a: “We are ready.”
19.27 Clock: In Hamburg, the population must still approve
You will also Search open discussion with critics and opponents in Hamburg, in order to win the bid to host the Games, Hörmann continues
19.25 clock. How does Hörmann Berlin application
“? Both towns have excellent presentations made, “says Hormann. Both were” very authentic “occurred. Berlin had emphasized his athletic experience and its international embedding in the sports scene.” That was the strength of Berlin’s bid.
19:22 Clock: Hamburg leaves the ship sirens howl
cheers in the Hanseatic city. .? Honking motorists around the Alster, sirens in the port – Hamburg celebrates the award of the German Olympic Sports Confederation
19.20 Clock: What are the international opportunities
Hörmann emphasizes recent releases from Boston indicated out that it “still many unanswered questions are” there. The DOSB President stressed: “In this early phase, nothing is resolved.”
19.16 clock: Hörmann praises Hamburger idea for Urban Development
DOSB President Hörmann recognizes the Hamburg concept. He particularly emphasizes the idea for urban development. “This Olympic bid is a project of the whole of Germany, we pack in it.”.
19.14 Clock: 18 to 11 votes – Hamburg also favorites of the Olympic sports federations
Of the 33 voting Olympics umbrella organizations favored 18 Hamburg, Berlin 11 and 4 have voted for both cities. In one Bureau had come to a majority decision for Hamburg. “We stand united against sports Germany,” says Hormann. Hamburg offers a “fascinating and compact Olympic concept”
19.12 clock. Hamburg applying for Germany to Olympia in 2024 or 2028
“is the unanimous proposal of the German Olympic Sports Confederation Bureau Germany: Hamburg. ” It was a “tough decision” says DOSB president Alfons Hörmann. And not against one of the two. They had “used until the last minute chance to exchange arguments”. Behind the cities lies one year of hard work. Both had “excellent concepts presented,” both “have international success”. In both locations, there is a “pleasingly high support among the people”, as well as in Germany as a whole
19.02 Clock: The press conference is imminent – soon decision will be officially
All. looks to Frankfurt am Main. There will begin in a few moments the official press conference of the German Olympic Sports Confederation. President Alfons Hörmann is then the decision of the association’s top announce which city will apply for Germany at the Summer Olympic Games in 2024 or 2028. It is said to be Hamburg. So far, however, these RBB message has no support
18.55 clock. It is well past: Berlin Hamburg congratulates
It is apparently over. Berlin Hamburg congratulated on the official Twitter account of the Olympic campaign to victory. “We are sorry but we congratulate Hamburg and wish you success in the race for Olympic 2024/28,” was the first record to 18.51 clock. “We thank all the brave and tireless supporters,” it said soon after the next entry. And even then: “We thank all reviewers for honest debate – Your fears remain off – schools and day care centers so there will be continued.”
18.41 Clock: The decision moves closer
The moment of decision is approaching. RBB right in his prediction before the vote, Hamburg have won? Those who want to see what is DOSB president Alfons Hörmann and its Bureau has decided that can live at this link here be
18.33 clock. Berlin Olympic opponents want to engage in Hamburg
At the meeting of NOlympia activists, including representatives of the Left as well as the initiative “100% Tempelhof Field” the eyes are already in the Hanseatic city – even if there is still no official confirmation that Hamburg awarded the German bid to have received. “We come to Hamburg, where they will also opponents,” said Sigrun Franzen from the Berlin water table at a meeting of activists in front of Lux in Kreuzberg
18.27 clock. The crucial meeting has just begun
The key DOSB session has just now begun. Bureau members from voting. The twittering of the German Olympic Sports Confederation and the German Olympic Sports Confederation confirmed spokesman Christian claw the Tagesspiegel. The RBB was so obsessed with his message too early – but that does not mean that he is wrong.
18.23 clock: NOlympia activists cheer before
cheers at the Berlin Olympic opponents. 15 activists met in front of Lux in Kreuzberg, yet once drummed against Berlin’s Olympic bid. After the RBB message had arrived that supposedly Hamburg has won the bid came at least in this circle on winner mood. Alcohol was not it, but the NOlympia-people pack before their flyer and build from the tables. “I immediately thought:. The application is a disaster in professional sports, there’s really only rip-off,” Horst Papelar-Dütsch said. The retired teacher says. Gyms would be rehabilitated more pressing
18.10 clock. Confusion about the RBB message
The message of the RBB provides in Frankfurt for some confusion. Even the RBB local colleagues do not know where the message is coming from. The RBB had tweeted that Hamburg had won the election in DOSB Bureau.
17.47 clock: RBB reports: Hamburg wins
The RBB reports already: Hamburg won. A source does not exist. Also in the Berlin delegation confidence is already disappeared. The shoulders sink to the bottom, corners of the mouth and the faces are longer. One says: “We presented ourselves really well but has probably been of no more.”.
17.25 clock: Who is the better loser
? 19 clock not only will it give in Frankfurt a winner, but also a loser for the race to host the Olympic Games 2024 and possibly also ran for 2028 will be. Our Authors Sven Goldmann and Daniel Haas are certain: Both cities are quite large even in losing.
17.15 clock: It happened the same
Two billboards and many chairs. The location of the decision promulgation in Frankfurt am Main is a very unspektakulärerer.
17.10 clock: Alternative proposals from the network
Since two hours shall meet the DOSB Bureau in Frankfurt, the Twitter users pass the waiting time with jokes. The satirical account of the newspaper “Die Welt” believes that we should rather suggest a city that had no problems with new buildings: Stuttgart. And the sports journalist Jens Weinreich calls for a 50-50 wild card. It’s about time that a decision will be made.
16.18 clock: It’s time for a Tagesspiegel forecast
Tagesspiegel sports department head Friedhard Teuffel in Frankfurt said: If Berlin did not get a clear lead by the leading associations wins Hamburg. Because the risk is too great many in the sport, with Berlin to lose the referendum in September. That would make the chances of Summer Games in Germany for decades to destroy
16.05 clock. Drop in “NOlympia”
Judith Demba, one of the most recognizable faces of the “NOlympia” movement and Executive Director of Friends of Nature, has not only problems with the increased enthusiasm of the Berlin Olympics, it must also take care of a criminal case. On the night of Sunday, the Friends of Nature was broken into Paretzer street in the very well secured office. The perpetrator or perpetrators stole a video projector and cash that was in the box office of the nature lovers. According to the current state of affairs of the perpetrator or perpetrators have collapsed targeted in the office. Other apartments in the house are in any case have remained intact
15.50 clock. “Berlin is ready”? The TV Tower is illuminated
“If not Berlin, who then” “Berlin may Olympics “Anyone who strolled by February 1, between sunset and midnight on Alexanderplatz, saw these messages flash across the TV tower. The headlights with a total capacity of 36 kilowatts – so about 2400 commercial energy saving lamps – can produce 16 million colors. But mainly red was desired for the TV tower, the color of the Berlin Olympic bid. So Senate Chancellery and Berlin wanted to demonstrate Partners Olympic buzz and to keep the population in Olympia mood. Now the action is over again: On Monday afternoon, the 12 fixtures have been removed, the tower has been restored in the familiar light.
15.39 Clock: Only the Drive professor thinks he’s caught
All alone has Gudrun Doll-Tepper into the restaurant of the hotel Lindner set, while next door advise the other eight members of the Bureau at the German Football Association. Doll-Tepper, a professor at the Free University, had declared himself a Berliner for biased and does not take part in the proceedings. “It is bitter. But there is no other way. “For independent enough hold on the other hand, the Vice President-performance sports Ole Bischof, who lives in Hamburg, and the Vice President of Administration and Finance, Stephan Abel, who works in Berlin.
15.10 Clock: The Ultimate session has started
Now is the time. The Bureau will hold its crucial meeting. Since it also experiences the same as the Olympic associations have positioned on Sunday. The result had previously closely guarded Siegfried Kaidel, spokesman for the associations. Kaidel is chairman of the German Rowing Association. No one should help in counting the votes him, it did not come as funny. “The DOSB Bureau trusts me up.”
14.44 clock: Berlin to Hamburg – the souvenir comparison
Anyone who wants to Olympia, which must offer its guests. The best thing to take away. So How’s the gift culture in Hamburg and Berlin? We have taken the test. A competition in three duels, you decide for yourself who is the winner. Hamburg begins in the category “Robbi vs. Trabi” – click through
14.29 clock: It does not have to be the capital of the German Olympic Sports Confederation
We had earlier been pointed out! made that IOC honorary member Walther Tröger sees no capital bonus for Berlin. In February, the DOSB Chairman of the Board Michael Vesper had made it clear that even other Olympic Games were awarded to cities that had no capitals – we remember spontaneously in Rio de Janeiro, Sochi, Vancouver, Turin, Salt Lake City, Sidney .. . And that alone since the turn of the millennium. Well done – otherwise the output of the evening of the event today would also somehow predictable
13.54 clock: From Frankfurt from the Private Viewing
lunch break in Frankfurt.. The DOSB Presidium members eat something before they decide from 15 clock at the decisive session whether Germany Berlin or Hamburg to apply for the Olympic Games in 2024 or 2028. The Berlin delegation makes slowly back on the journey home – Frank Henkel as “private viewing” the RBB is from 19 clock to expect. There are also many top representatives of the Berlin sports federations and probably several members of the Berlin Senate and House of Representatives. Even the mayor Michael Müller should be reported to it. In Hamburg, however, today finds evening a public viewing of Olympic fans in the (local) O2-World instead. The largest public Olympic event in Berlin is likely to be tonight’s meeting of the Olympic opponents from 16 clock before the LUX (Silesian street corner / Falkensteinstraße). If you want to organize but still spontaneously Public Viewing: This link is from 19 clock streamed live, as the Bureau has decided.
13.25 Clock: So the venues on the cities are distributed
You do the whole thing a can introduce bit more specific and consider whether you think it is good or bad, that before your doorstep Olympians along gymnastics: So the venues would spread across the city, would the games to Berlin:
And if Hamburg moving to Hamburg plan in the next few years: If you want to stay close to the sports facilities, you should seek a central area:
12.58 clock: “Be quick, breaking my hand!”
Since they are: Hamburg sports Senator Michael Neumann (SPD) and his Berlin colleague Frank Henkel (CDU). Henkel Neumann: “You want to be sure the left.” And the photographer: “Be quick, breaking my hand!”
12.49 clock: Frank Henkel: “We win the referendum”
Berlin Sports Senator Frank Henkel (CDU) is satisfied with the presentation to the panel of experts. He said: “Now it is no longer in our hands, but we have made it clear that.. Let the games and we can see the Games I’m sure that we will win the referendum” But it would have only now come to a decision to make Berlin the evening.
12.35 Clock: The discussion with the expert round is over
That’s it, the panel of experts has the candidate cities surveyed long enough, now are Henkel, Neumann and Co. out of the meeting hall in the DFB headquarters arrived. IOC honorary member Walther Tröger, meanwhile, sees no capital bonus when international award: “Hamburg can still compete with Boston, that’s no question.”
12.26 Clock: Also Warnemünde fever probably with
In essence, takes in the Olympic decision not only against Berlin Hamburg – but also Warnemünde Travermünde against the planned alignment places the sailing competitions. The city of Rostock namely entirely set fully to Berlin – and may now fail with an Olympic bid for the third time
12.10 clock: Berlin team performance, Hamburger lone
As yesterday. Berlin joined the presentation as a team on: Sports Senator Frank Henkel, BR volleys Manager Kaweh Niroomand, Hockey Olympic champion Natascha Keller and multiple Paralympic medalist Daniela Schulte presented the Berlin before application together. Hamburg presented only sports Senator Michael Neumann
11.56 clock. Berlin has nevertheless been a referendum law
After having answered the quite expectable questions about the BER, Frank Henkel talked about the Berlin referendum law, which forms the basis that on 13 September to decide the Berliners, whether they want to or not at all Olympic Games – Hamburg there is no legal basis for it. Currently it comes to the issue of sustainability: Still-Secretary of State for Construction and Housing, Engelbert Daldrup explains that the proposed Olympic Village in Tegel pursue a zero-emissions concept.
Olympic Village in Tegel? There are some initial designs, as this could look – click here through the images:
11.35 clock: Henkel provides financial planning before
Berlin’s Interior Senator Frank Henkel (CDU) observers According watching the budget situation “very well described,” including growth funds and debt settlement. Especially, there are questions about accessibility, now it is about the commitment of the professional clubs in schools
11.11 clock.? But again advantage Hamburg
The presentations are over, now runs the Q & A session , After the former Health Minister Ulla Schmidt (SPD) now says the former CEO Fritz Pleitgen ARD; Next to it is a DGB representative. It’s about the issues of finance and public participation
Speaking of. DOSB president Alfons Hörmann has emphasized the ZDF morning show again how important his opinion the backing of the respective population this morning. “It is certainly very strongly about the question that people will support our project more in the end,” he said. In a recent survey, most recently 64 percent of Hamburg for the Olympics had voted in their city, in Berlin, it was 55 percent.
A decision had not been taken, so Hörmann further. “We are completely open-ended for the day.” It was producing two excellent concepts to choose from. For Berlin speak ‘clearly as a strong argument “capital bonus. “In contrast, Hamburg has a fascinating concept presented in terms of development for the future.” One common application granted Hörmann again a refusal. “The absolutely charming sounding idea of common games we have of course also reviewed and discussed (…) and all professionals advise against it,” Hormann said
10.55 clock. The tenor Twitter: main Olympic
In Frankfurt likely now the Berlin delegation stand on stage and present their plans for 2024 – unfortunately our reporter sees nothing:
Meanwhile, eagerly discussed also on Twitter under the hashtag # Olympia2024 , In particular, many sports fans are more likely to draw – the tenor is: “The main thing Olympics in Germany”
Many Twitter users come to other ideas on how to deal with the decision today..
And an employee of the German Olympic Sports Confederation today tomorrow knew early on what probably expected him …
10.30 Clock: sets Hamburg presents
DOSB Executive Michael Vesper . currently the Hamburg delegation – which is led by the local sports Senator Michael Neumann (SPD)
10.02 clock: It starts
The doors in the DFB headquarters close to the two cities must now explain why it would be an appropriate and promising candidate for Olympic Games in 2024 or 2028 in Germany again. Again Hamburg presented to Berlin. Our cartoonist Klaus Erl has to his own opinion:
DOSB president Alfons Hörmann praises just the impressive presentations of yesterday.
9.50 Clock: The Experts: The Alpine Club and a Bishop – including
Who are the people who have said the same as the DOSB Bureau, which city that provides the best host of the hold the Olympic Games in 2024? First of all, there are about a third of women (14) and most experts Sports (18); in addition there are 16 civil society representatives and nine out of politics. In the latter way, no Green Party are who canceled their participation. Particularly interesting are the representatives of civil society: this (expertise which the question Berlin or Hamburg maybe not quite as falling into weight) counts among others Josef Klenner the German Alpine Club, the Trier Bishop Jörg Michael Peters and Sylvia Schenk, Transparency International, whose organization independent of the candidate city a lot of work is likely to play as often in large projects. The complete list of experts can be found at this link
9.25 clock. Today it is mainly used to Alfons Hörmann on
To whom and what is important today? On Alfons Hörmann especially the President of the German Olympic Sports Confederation. On the eve of the decision Hörmann, however, was difficult to influence. He left one of the first of the Lindner restaurant in Frankfurt am Main. Since it was 20.50 clock.
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